Proposal to fund swth.info for 2022



  • Good day, this proposal is in continuation of proposal https://switcheo.org/governance/proposal/75?net=main

    Recentely on request from the community we added the ability to see how actively community vote: https://swth.info/voters-top and also since all the data is stored in our PG database we are planing to make a link between TradeHub and Carbon so the users could see all the txns on old chain and new chain respectively on swth.info.

    For next years operations we seek for 4200 USDC in total

    Costs breakdown:

    1. 30 USDC per month - server
    2. 300 USDC per month - external dev/admin salary
    3. ~20 USDC per month - network fees/conversion to fiat

    Total: 350 USDC per month

    350x12 (months) = 4200 USDC



  • I believe this is a worthwhile proposal. swth.info is a well liked and much used tool by the community.
    The costs are reasonable in straight USD terms, so long as SWTH equivalent is not used.
    Could you please clarify if the cost includes porting the backend to support Carbon and API changes (yes, I know these aren't public yet, but the JS-SDK is - https://github.com/Switcheo/carbon-js-sdk).



  • @intsol yes, it is included hence a little raise in dev costs.



  • @acidbird said in Proposal to fund swth.info for 2022:

    @intsol yes, it is included hence a little raise in dev costs.

    Thanks for clarifying



  • I absolutely love swth.info, but have just as many reservations about the proposal.

    Last I checked, the only way to acquire all of your trade information was via swth.info (Demex only gives out 200-300 trades via csv); which means they are the only reference someone could use to report their taxes (if your country requires such reporting). I find this to be extremely concerning and unrealistic. These proposals give me great concern because the implication is that without the funding, we would no longer have access to our trade information.

    Is there an expectation that the SDF will be funding swth.info indefinitely? I feel as though we're being held over a barrel for two very specific features of swth.info that should already be provided by Demex/Carbon....the faucet and access to our trade information. While funding for 2022 is relatively minor, funding for the next ten years is more concerning. We don't seem to be addressing the underlying need that should be fundamental; which is the only reason I feel this proposal should be passed. It is also the reason I cannot actively endorse the site to other US citizens.

    For me, as a trader and intermediate dev, I don't like the idea of not having easy access to my information. While certain parts of the Tradehub/Carbon community tout the freedom from regulation, the vast majority of a countries citizenry is law abiding. Failing to provide the information, making it contingent on a separate site and paying that site is odd.

    I believe the proposal should pass with a cavaet. You really need to deal with this probem! Or...decide to fund the site indefinitely...

    I apologize if I'm being a little provocative, but very much welcome a disourse on the topic. Thanks in advance!



  • @acidbird

    I agree on Server costs and any bigger changes required for carbon, as long as the project is open sourced. I dont agree on a admin/external dev salary, which is not required if the project would be open sourced.

    The switcheo development funds are available for projects helping decentralizing. A project which is not open sourced does not provide all requirements.

    @Climacus said in Proposal to fund swth.info for 2022:

    Last I checked, the only way to acquire all of your trade information was via swth.info (Demex only gives out 200-300 trades via csv); which means they are the only reference someone could use to report their taxes (if your country requires such reporting). I find this to be extremely concerning and unrealistic. These proposals give me great concern because the implication is that without the funding, we would no longer have access to our trade information.

    All trades are available using the API and can be accessed by anyone. There are open source tools which convert the result to a coinly import format. (see https://github.com/Mai-Te-Pora/ExportDemexTradesAndTransfersToKoinly). I use my own implementation to export trades to a Cointracking importable format. If requested I will put is open source.
    Switcheo already announced that they will host the old chain data so everyone can still access these information.



  • @Devel484 we are constantly checking the availability of API and dev always has smth to do + this time we added in all the changes we will have to do as confirmed above to Intsol so this part is not gonna change and there are no current plans to open-source our project as well. You will be able to cast your vote on Monday, when it is up.



  • Proposal is up for voting, please cast your votes: https://switcheo.org/governance/proposal/152?net=main



  • On this occasion, I will be voting yes to this proposal on behalf of "intsol community staking" stakers, but am also persuaded by posts above of the need to open-source and not create open-ended costs for the SDF.
    I request the swth.info developers to reconsider their stance on open-sourcing the swth.info site and for other community developers (myself included) to provide alternative information sources for the community.


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